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		<title>Comment on Government falls at the first hurdle of healthcare reform! by Helen Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/07/20/government-falls-at-the-first-hurdle-of-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-15505</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I am not surprised that this has happened.  Thank you for your comments, you make a good and valuable point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I am not surprised that this has happened.  Thank you for your comments, you make a good and valuable point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Government falls at the first hurdle of healthcare reform! by Voluntarist</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/07/20/government-falls-at-the-first-hurdle-of-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-15504</link>
		<dc:creator>Voluntarist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound surprised at this...  And I hope you know that the Big Society is just the new version of the Third Way, ie: corporatism, not liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound surprised at this&#8230;  And I hope you know that the Big Society is just the new version of the Third Way, ie: corporatism, not liberalism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Lansley&#8217;s White Paper on the NHS does not go far enough by E Gowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Gowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As well as being the Director of NFR she is also a Health Fellow at the Adam Smith Institute.&quot;

And there we have it! Adam Smith much favoured by Margaret Thatcher, that person who decimated British industry, British steel, the coal mines and threw millions on to the dole in this Free Market world and on the way she closed all cottage hospitals, closed hundreds of hospital wards, increased patient waiting times and waiting lists and tried to introduce the market into the NHS which led to abysmal failures.

Is there no end to you greedy capitalists? Do people not matter to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As well as being the Director of NFR she is also a Health Fellow at the Adam Smith Institute.&#8221;</p>
<p>And there we have it! Adam Smith much favoured by Margaret Thatcher, that person who decimated British industry, British steel, the coal mines and threw millions on to the dole in this Free Market world and on the way she closed all cottage hospitals, closed hundreds of hospital wards, increased patient waiting times and waiting lists and tried to introduce the market into the NHS which led to abysmal failures.</p>
<p>Is there no end to you greedy capitalists? Do people not matter to you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Lansley&#8217;s White Paper on the NHS does not go far enough by E Gowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Gowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be a very small group of nurses for reform, because approximately 99.5% of my colleagues in our huge hospital are totally against the proposals in this white paper. In fact you nurses for reform, are you working within the private sector perhaps and see your positions as becoming more lucrative?

We all know that this white paper is just denationalisation and prerequisite to full blown privatisation, something the Tories have wanted to do to the NHS all the time, they see the deficit as a golden opportunity to do just that.
By the look of your photograph you are not old enough to remember the NHS and the parlous state it was in prior 1997, if you were, you may take a completely different view. Our NHS was deliberately run into the ground then the stage set for the Tories to say it isn&#039;t working it has to be privatised.
Now they are at it again, this white paper is going to cause utter chaos in the system, major mayhem and disruption, waiting lists and waiting times will again rise, hospitals and GP surgeries will go bankrupt. GPs will start cherry picking their patients and will refuse to care for the elderly because that is expensive. people are going to be refused treatment if it is expensive, refused drugs if they are expensive, people are going to die for your slavish selfish attitude towards this certifiably insane government. When they have caused major destruction in &quot;fixing&quot; something that isn&#039;t broken, but very much on the mend and getting stronger each and every day, they will turn around and say &quot;the NHS is not working, we tried and failed it is time to privatise it&quot; and they are using people like you to do it- shame on you. What are you a closet  Tory? A Conservative Lib Dem apologist? How can you possibly say this does not go far enough, when it has taken just 6 weeks to produce these proposals, there has been no consultations, no pilot schemes and over half GPs do NOT want this, yet you say it doesn&#039;t go far enough? What are you on?

Understand this people will not just be paying with their money, they will be paying with their lives.

I hope you can live with that - I know I couldn&#039;t.

You have no idea at all about what is coming and I regard you and people like you as every bit a serious danger to people we are bound to help as this crackpot government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be a very small group of nurses for reform, because approximately 99.5% of my colleagues in our huge hospital are totally against the proposals in this white paper. In fact you nurses for reform, are you working within the private sector perhaps and see your positions as becoming more lucrative?</p>
<p>We all know that this white paper is just denationalisation and prerequisite to full blown privatisation, something the Tories have wanted to do to the NHS all the time, they see the deficit as a golden opportunity to do just that.<br />
By the look of your photograph you are not old enough to remember the NHS and the parlous state it was in prior 1997, if you were, you may take a completely different view. Our NHS was deliberately run into the ground then the stage set for the Tories to say it isn&#8217;t working it has to be privatised.<br />
Now they are at it again, this white paper is going to cause utter chaos in the system, major mayhem and disruption, waiting lists and waiting times will again rise, hospitals and GP surgeries will go bankrupt. GPs will start cherry picking their patients and will refuse to care for the elderly because that is expensive. people are going to be refused treatment if it is expensive, refused drugs if they are expensive, people are going to die for your slavish selfish attitude towards this certifiably insane government. When they have caused major destruction in &#8220;fixing&#8221; something that isn&#8217;t broken, but very much on the mend and getting stronger each and every day, they will turn around and say &#8220;the NHS is not working, we tried and failed it is time to privatise it&#8221; and they are using people like you to do it- shame on you. What are you a closet  Tory? A Conservative Lib Dem apologist? How can you possibly say this does not go far enough, when it has taken just 6 weeks to produce these proposals, there has been no consultations, no pilot schemes and over half GPs do NOT want this, yet you say it doesn&#8217;t go far enough? What are you on?</p>
<p>Understand this people will not just be paying with their money, they will be paying with their lives.</p>
<p>I hope you can live with that &#8211; I know I couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You have no idea at all about what is coming and I regard you and people like you as every bit a serious danger to people we are bound to help as this crackpot government.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NFR and Progressive Vision Launch #No2NHS by Justa Arcaute</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2009/08/13/nfr-and-progressive-vision-launch-no2nhs/comment-page-1/#comment-15452</link>
		<dc:creator>Justa Arcaute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are certainly a good deal of details like that to take into consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are certainly a good deal of details like that to take into consideration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NHS Reform &#8211; NFRs Advice to the next UK Government by Government health reforms put wind up private hospitals and uncooperative trades unions &#124; Nurses for Reform Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/04/07/nhs-reform-nfrs-advice-to-the-next-uk-government/comment-page-1/#comment-15330</link>
		<dc:creator>Government health reforms put wind up private hospitals and uncooperative trades unions &#124; Nurses for Reform Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is pleased with reports that the government is finally accepting the organisation&#8217;s arguments that national collective pay bargaining must be ended across the public sector, including the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on NHS Targets Kill Patients says top UK Cancer Doctor by H</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/04/06/nhs-targets-kill-patients-says-top-uk-cancer-doctor/comment-page-1/#comment-10696</link>
		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just in health but in almost all public sector services. 

Targets damage learning and improvement - please read the attached article that details more of the why. 

http://bit.ly/3AH6wl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just in health but in almost all public sector services. </p>
<p>Targets damage learning and improvement &#8211; please read the attached article that details more of the why. </p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/3AH6wl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3AH6wl</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Nurses for Reform in Daily Telegraph by E</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/03/10/nurses-for-reform-in-daily-telegraph/comment-page-1/#comment-10459</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is quite a lively debate going on over at  http://www.mentalnurse.org/  scroll down to the bit entitled &quot;Nurses&quot; for reform in the Daily Telegraph.  There is plenty of the myopic self interested twaddle you would expect from people who have grown used to sucking on the government teat for most of their adult lives but playing devils advocate for a minute how would allowing pharmaceutical companies to advertise aid patient choice?  Advertising be it for cars, washing machines or hip replacements is not intended to give us information about which is the best car washing, machine or hip replacement to have it is about persuading us to buy a particular product.  If i want to know which car to buy I will get a copy of What car and read the reviews, if i want to choose a washing machine i go to Which and read their best in test report.  If I want to know which medication to take for a particular condition I talk to my GP and take his advice. He is the expert.

How would abolishing or opening up the RCN or GMC help.  Do you mean the RCN or do you mean the NMC (nursing and Midwifery council) which is our regulatory body.  The RCN is a trade union and there are plenty of those I could have joined in preference to the RCN.

Maybe a model for a new reformed NHS could be the BBC.  Regulated by government,  part funded by the state but not run by the state it would be accountable to the people it serves through a board of governors one of whom could be the secretary  of state for health.  How would that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is quite a lively debate going on over at  <a href="http://www.mentalnurse.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mentalnurse.org/</a>  scroll down to the bit entitled &#8220;Nurses&#8221; for reform in the Daily Telegraph.  There is plenty of the myopic self interested twaddle you would expect from people who have grown used to sucking on the government teat for most of their adult lives but playing devils advocate for a minute how would allowing pharmaceutical companies to advertise aid patient choice?  Advertising be it for cars, washing machines or hip replacements is not intended to give us information about which is the best car washing, machine or hip replacement to have it is about persuading us to buy a particular product.  If i want to know which car to buy I will get a copy of What car and read the reviews, if i want to choose a washing machine i go to Which and read their best in test report.  If I want to know which medication to take for a particular condition I talk to my GP and take his advice. He is the expert.</p>
<p>How would abolishing or opening up the RCN or GMC help.  Do you mean the RCN or do you mean the NMC (nursing and Midwifery council) which is our regulatory body.  The RCN is a trade union and there are plenty of those I could have joined in preference to the RCN.</p>
<p>Maybe a model for a new reformed NHS could be the BBC.  Regulated by government,  part funded by the state but not run by the state it would be accountable to the people it serves through a board of governors one of whom could be the secretary  of state for health.  How would that work?</p>
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		<title>Comment on This House Would Rather be Unwell in Britain than America NFR Speech to Oxford Union on 4 February 2010 by Oxford Libertarian Society</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/02/09/this-house-would-rather-be-unwell-in-britain-than-america-nfr-speech-to-oxford-union-on-4-february-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-9435</link>
		<dc:creator>Oxford Libertarian Society</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm, thought we might wait for the full-blown critique of this for a while!!!

My, my Helen how you have rattled your opponents. Magic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm, thought we might wait for the full-blown critique of this for a while!!!</p>
<p>My, my Helen how you have rattled your opponents. Magic!</p>
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		<title>Comment on More Damning NHS Failure by Julia Henshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.nursesforreformblog.com/2010/03/09/more-damning-nhs-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-9369</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia Henshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many nurses do you represent and who funds you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many nurses do you represent and who funds you?</p>
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